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The Vertical Space

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The Vertical Space

Jim Barry, Peter Shannon & Luka Tomljenovic

#113 Andrew Clare, Elroy Air: Scaling Autonomous Cargo

June 30, 2026 5:00pm 1:10

In this episode we speak with Andrew Clare, CEO of Elroy Air, which builds the Chaparral, an autonomous hybrid-electric VTOL that hauls cargo in detachable pods for middle-mile commercial and defense logistics. Elroy is ...

#112 Lauren Flanagan, Sesame Solar: The fuel convoy is the target

June 15, 2026 12:00pm 1:08

In this episode we speak with Lauren Flanagan, CEO of Sesame Solar, which builds mobile nanogrids. The product is a self-contained unit that generates its own power from solar, batteries, and stored hydrogen, set up by o...

#111 Libby Bahat, Israel Civil Aviation Authority: Flying civilians into a war zone

May 25, 2026 12:00pm 56 min

Libby Bahat returns to The Vertical Space. Last time we talked to him about building an airspace for drones in peacetime. This time he's the regulator who decides whether a 777 full of people lands in a country under mis...

#110 Mike Stengel, AeroDynamic Advisory: Gulf crisis impact on air travel

May 06, 2026 11:00am 58 min

We sat down with Mike Stengel of AeroDynamic Advisory to discuss what the US-Iran conflict is doing to aviation. The Middle East moves about 20% of global crude, and with the Strait of Hormuz closed and Gulf refining cap...

#109 Admiral Phil Kenul: What flying into hurricanes taught him about drone regulation

April 20, 2026 1:00pm 52 min

Admiral Phil Kenul spent decades flying NOAA aircraft into some of the most dangerous weather on earth, including multiple seasons as a P-3 Orion hurricane hunter, before transitioning into the world of UAS standards, wh...

#108 Alex List, FlyShirley: 'Shirley' there's an opportunity for AI in the flight deck

March 17, 2026 6:00am 1:08

In this episode we sit down with Alex List, CEO and founder of FlyShirley, a startup building an AI copilot for the cockpit. Alex walks through what AI in aviation actually looks like today: the practical reality of a gr...

#107 Robert Rose, Reliable Robotics: Congressional testimony and conveyor belts in the sky

February 17, 2026 12:00pm 1:15

In this episode we reconnect with Robert Rose, CEO of Reliable Robotics, fresh off his testimony before Congress on the state of advanced air mobility. Robert shares what most people misunderstand about FAA certification...

#106 Koen De Vos: U-Space, U-Space… Where Art Thou?

February 03, 2026 2:00pm 1:13

In this episode we sit down with Koen De Vos, Secretary General of GUTMA, to unpack why U-Space still feels more aspirational than operational, and what aviation can learn from industries that have at least partially man...

#105 Ben Ivers, Boeing: Airspace modernization

December 16, 2025 10:00am 1:06

In this episode, we sit down with Ben Ivers (Boeing’s Director of Emerging Technologies & Regulatory Strategy) to unpack a deceptively simple idea: airspace modernization isn’t optional anymore and the tech to enable “au...

#104 Edward Barraclough, Drone-Hand: Why ranching will scale autonomy before defense

December 04, 2025 9:00am 1:12

Autonomy may scale in agriculture long before it does in defense or UAM, and today’s guest makes a compelling case why. We speak with Edward Barraclough, founder and CEO of Drone-Hand, about applying autonomous drones an...

#103 Ed Bastian, Delta Air Lines: Raising the ceiling of possibility

October 30, 2025 2:00am 53 min

In this episode, Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian breaks down what truly differentiates a great airline: people and culture. Ed shares why “take care of your people first” isn’t a slogan (it’s Delta’s operating system!) an...

#102 Adam Woodworth, Wing: What aviation looks like at Google scale

October 21, 2025 6:00am 1:11

Adam Woodworth, CEO of Wing (Alphabet’s drone delivery company), joins us to talk about making delivery ubiquitous and why drones should be an equal player alongside other delivery methods. Adam argues we’ve already pass...

#101 Ryan Gury, PDW: Drones, Innovation, and Lady Gaga

October 09, 2025 1:00pm 1:14

Welcome to episode 101 of The Vertical Space. In this conversation, we sit down with Ryan Gury, Co-founder and CEO of Performance Drone Works (PDW). Ryan argues that “commercial is eating aerospace,” and shows why the ce...

#100 Chris Hewlett, Project ULTRA: Why DoD will lead UAS integration

September 25, 2025 6:00am 1:30

In this 100th episode, we sit down with Chris Hewlett, former Navy Commander and Director of Project Ultra, for a candid conversation about the realities of UAS integration. Chris challenges the industry’s rush toward co...

#99 Jia Xu, SkyGrid: Opening the sky for autonomous flight

September 09, 2025 10:00am 1:17

In this episode, we welcome back Jia Xu, CEO of SkyGrid, to discuss the future of autonomy and shared airspace. SkyGrid is building a trusted airspace and operational integration platform to enable safe, secure, and effi...

#98 Ryan Graves, ASA: UAPs as a wake-up call for airspace safety and innovation

August 06, 2025 12:00pm 1:26

Ryan Graves is a former U.S. Navy F/A-18F pilot and the first active-duty pilot to publicly report regular UAP sightings. In this episode, we explore what these encounters reveal about gaps in our airspace sensing and sa...

#97 Julie Garland, Avtrain: Drone business and regulation in Europe

July 17, 2025 2:00pm 1:14

In this episode we’re joined by Julie Garland, CEO of Avtrain, for a deep dive into the current state of the drone industry and regulation across Europe. Julie shares her perspective on why societal acceptance is just as...

#96 Chad Sweet, ModalAI: Small, smarter, safer UAS - made in USA

July 03, 2025 8:00am 1:15

In this episode, Chad Sweet, co-founder and CEO of ModalAI, joins us to explore the evolving drone landscape and what’s driving the next wave of innovation. Chad shares his perspective on the rising importance of FPV (fi...

#95 Serhii Kupriienko, Swarmer: Building swarms in Ukraine’s drone war

June 17, 2025 9:00am 1:10

Drone swarms are no longer science fiction - they're becoming one of the most disruptive technologies on the modern battlefield. In this episode, we speak with Serhii Kupriienko, founder and CEO of Swarmer, a Ukrainian s...

#94 Brandon Suarez, Reliable Robotics:  Balancing safety and operational benefits

June 04, 2025 10:00am 1:06

In this episode, we welcome back Brandon Suarez from Reliable Robotics, more than three years after his first appearance. Brandon leads the development of technical standards and global aviation policy, and this return v...

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